A Little Thought For All Just something for people to think about
#1
Posted 13 May 2003 - 02:07 AM
I also learned a harsh reality about life tonight. My grandmother has been suffering a great deal for the past year, as of late she was in the hospital. Well she passed away this morning.
As you would all think these past weeks, have been really hard, on me, my dad, and the rest of the immediate family. I kinda know how Jessica`s parents felt, for that week, not knowing what was going to happen, then getting the relief that she was ok. For a moment I feel the same way, my gram suffered a great deal, and to me deep down this is a relief to finally see her at peace. At the same time it tears me up knowing that I was never the best grandson, and wish I could turn back the clock, knowing I never will get to see her again to tell her the way I felt.
I guess what I`m trying to say is that we are all placed here on earth for only a short time. Why waste that time, fighting amungst each other. Jessica was given back to us, she was given that second chance, but yet instead of encouraging her, we fight amungst ourselves, about things that are meaningless. Things that wont hurt any of us, but will hurt Jessica.
We should cherish every moment we have, with whoever, I`m sure her parents, will for the rest of their lives. I only wish I had that chance, the chance that I could have been there more for my grandmother.
my prayers remain with Jessica, as well as my departed gram.
Alan Mostek Jr
#2
Posted 13 May 2003 - 05:35 AM
from a Christian perspective, at least.
Lets step back a minute and look at the forum. What is the forum about? To honor Pvt.
Lynch (and yes the other POWs, and all our servicemembers). But why do we honor Pvt.
Lynch? Because of some stories that she fired her weapon until the last round? Because
she was gravely injured, even through there are other young women who have suffered
even greater injuries and indignities? Because she decided to put on a uniform, even
though many other women have decided to put on a uniform? Actually I think there is an
even more fundamental reason why we honor her. I believe it is because of the same thing
that Boaz saw in young Ruth: “for all the city of my people doth know that thou art a
virtuous woman.” (Ruth 3:11). It was virtue that made Pvt. Lynch make the decisions
that she made that eventually resulted in her being confronted with evil and overcoming it.
Now, lets think about a related matter. What, amongst Christians, would be the greatest
celebration of virtue there can be? The answer is the Church, Christ’s body on earth.
Because it is a celebration of Christ’s virtue. It started out in its original form in “the unity
of the Spirit through the bond of peace.” (Ephesians 4:3). But it eventually ended up
with an apostle being excommunicated from his own church. (3 John 1:9 “I wrote to the
church, but Diotrephes, who loves to be first, will have nothing to do with us.”). This was
something the Apostle Paul predicted would happen in time. (“I know that after I leave,
savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own
number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.”
Acts 20:29-30). And then it split up into hundreds of denominations and traditions, all
competing with each other and being nasty to each other.
If some of us as humans beings of the Christian religion have failed to honorably celebrate
the virtue of Christ, how shall we not fail generally as humans in honorably celebrating
the virtue of a young woman? In both these attempts we shall be, from time to time, be
like The Three Stooges.
Alan:
The Lord bless you and keep you; the Lord make his face shine upon you and be gracious
to you; the Lord turn his face toward you and give you peace.
Amen.
#3
Posted 13 May 2003 - 07:26 AM
I offer my humble condolences, and will keep you and your family in my thoughts and prayers.
God Bless You,
Perry Williams
#4
Posted 13 May 2003 - 07:51 AM
My condolences on your loss. Perhaps that helped to bring a needed perspective to this board...a slap in teh face to the rest of us.
#5 Guest_Signmaker_*
Posted 13 May 2003 - 10:35 AM
I too am sorry for your grandmother's passing. she obviously meant a great deal to you.
You delivered a very powerful message that I think all of us should remember.
I have also been in the position where I wished I would have said more or done things a little bit differently. But as you said, we can't turn back the clock and should cherish every moment we have with whomever we're with. I have always found that hard to do but I have grown since coming to this board.
I came to this forum to get information on Jessi and I have found more here than anywhere else. But I came to realize that really wasn't why I came and stayed. As a 55-year old male who had never cried for anybody my entire adult life, I could have counted the times I had wept (2-3 seconds) on one hand. Yet when I read or heard things about Jessi, I wept frequently. I still weep occasionally, but now I find when I look into that smiling face...I smile back...as if she was really there.
I think Jessi's situation triggered something deep inside each of us. She has been the key that unlocked the tears that I didn't shed for myself and others over the years. I don't know why that happened but I'm glad it did. So, I could say all day long that I am here for Jessi and information about her but the truth is I'm here for me. Don't get me wrong...I will always remember and respect Jessica Lynch.
I also think that is why alot of us stay. Each time we make a post, we show a glimpse of ourselves to others. Some are angry, some are religious, some want to talk about details, and so on. Usually, when arguments have occured, it is over criticism of another person's message. The guy or gal writes a message that they feel is important, somebody else reads it and reacts to it based on their experience. Then they send out a response and either praise the original posting or degrade it. If it is negative, the original sender sees it as a personal attack (which it may be), both sides get offended and off they go...fussin' and feudin'. Although it would be nice if we all behaved logically or rationally, I doubt that will happen quickly, if ever. Like it or not, we are all human and not perfect.
However, I have been encouraged the last few days over what I've seen in this thread and others. People in several sections are posting simliar messages. Some are apologizing for their behavior. I have also noticed that many more people are putting their names at the end of what they write. I think that's a good sign.
This members of this forum have become a family of sorts. I think all of us have "adopted" Jessi as our child, sister, hero, or whatever we've needed her to be. As with any "family", we will share our love, respect, and admiration for each other, but we will also squabble and say hurtful things as well.
I am sorry that Jessi has been put in this position but she has. I hope she will understand.
Again Alan, thanks for a most thoughtful message,
Emil
#6
Posted 13 May 2003 - 10:51 AM
God bless everybody, good and the bad
#7
Posted 13 May 2003 - 12:36 PM
I am also one that has gotten way out of hand in expressing my views.Sometimes I can be down right crude.And I'm sorry about that. But I've reacted to things out of personal expieriance.Not out of being a mean spirited person.One little battle I had here was about the renaming of a Peak.I'm part Native American,..I took it from that point of view. With this topic, I lost my daughter when she was 7, I do get rather angry to think that if she were here today people would be telling her what she can,or can't,should or shouldn't do.Hence, my attitide. But you're all right. And I know that I shouldv'e tried to get my point across without being threatening or crude.I will pay more attention to that from here on out. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure I'll still rattle my cage now and then, just not as violent.
Thank you for that post, Signmaker.
Zacc1
Nick Zaccone
#8 Guest_Signmaker_*
Posted 13 May 2003 - 04:00 PM
A very good thoughtful post. It probably was hard for you to do. It would have been for me.
QUOTE |
Thank you for that post, Signmaker. |
I'm glad you found it helpful. I'm just trying to figure it all out myself. Even I don't understand me sometimes. But I'm workin' on it!
Emil
#9 Guest_Kicks_*
Posted 13 May 2003 - 06:40 PM
My condolences to you and your loved ones on the lost of Gram. I have no living grandparents and I miss them. However...I live in what was there house, and I'm being serious here, if you are interested, email me and I'll tell you why we think my grandfather's spirit hug around here until my grandmother passed away. No joking!
#10
Posted 13 May 2003 - 09:06 PM
My prayors are with you and your family Fastaljr. I personally know how you feel i lost two grandmothers. one my dad's mother and the other my great grandmother form my mom's side. and there are thing i two whish i could go back and say.
As for Jessica, I agree we should get along with each other. We may have our differences in opionions. But that is what America is about, groups of people may publicley share their belifes. In fact i know wish i read this thread before a posted a rebuttel on the obbsesed fan post. But it is verey un American for us to critize people for their belifes, you may not aggree with them, on the otherhand however they may dissagree with your beleifes. and to quote FDR
Amarica is Freedom of Speach. Freedom of Religon. and Freedom of Want. and if you are reading this Jessica, if you have any fearors of recuporation , physical therorpy, occupational theropy and how life will be different for you and any Post dramatic Stress Disorder, may I quote FDR once again The onley thing we have to fear is fear its self.
#11
Posted 13 May 2003 - 09:14 PM
Not only is it Un-American to critise others for their belifes. It is also Very Un-American to critizise others because of their looks, religon, ethnic backround or their. Here are my thauhgts
In sociaty we look more on the outside than the inside which is more important when choosing social icons and companions. you see this happen everyday in star search recentley a person who clealey sang better didn't win because they didn't have the looks. its time to make a revelution on looking on the inside of a person first then the outside. some have good looks and a good nature by being pleasent to be around. so many people are left off the wagon because they don't have the looks, but they can be the nicest person you ever will meet.we must stop this persona of good looks and the average taboo.
we need to look at a person on the inside before looking at the outside. you are still a human no matter if you are thin or fat prety or average. black, or white, oriental, or hispanic or middle eastren. no matte what you look like on the outside it is who you are on the inside that counts. America was built on forigeners and it is what makes this countrey. We need to stop hating people because of their religion, or the color of their skin, or their sexual prefferance they are still people. if we keep judgeing people their outside we will fall as a sociaty. infact this is probablly led to the fall of many acient civiliations. we should NEVER judge a person by his skin.
#12
Posted 13 May 2003 - 09:29 PM
I enjoy reading about you folks praising God, using scripture, and saying nice things. I like it when you share your feelings, goings on, and life stuff. It helps me to let me know that I'm OK.
To me, it is not so much just one thing that has made Jessica as a hero. As many of you have so eloquently stated it is the story of Jessica. Her family, her dreams, her community, her best friend in the army, her rescue, her face that showed so much pain and fright, and there is a little bit of that what all happened to her.
I previously had asked that Scanner2 would police the site to keep the jerks from posting. He has since started doing that and I am glad. I don't need any trouble, I don't need any more reasons to think negative thoughts. I just like to share on a positive note. Just as I hear you all wanting to do.
Thanks for reading this, and thanks for your words, and thanks for this site.
There is a scripture I want to share on this thread:
Psalms 116:15
Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of His saints.
#13
Posted 14 May 2003 - 12:44 AM
I hope Jessica knows that above all we want her to get better, as quickly as possible, she is a gift to us all. She was given a second chance at living her life. As I stated earlier we should thank god for all those including Jessica, that came home, others still remain forever on patrol. She may have been a stranger to us all in the past, but spiritually we have all reached out and become friends. We are truly the family that was spoke of in an earlier post. We have all come together in the aide of a hero, who thinks most likely to herself that she isnt anything close to a hero. I know deep down we all want to go and hug her and tell her she is a hero, but knowing we cant, this board is our way, the way to give her that hug, a hug with words persay. I have had many hardships in my life, and I have alot things that I truly never spoke of publicly, such as something as personal as a passing of a loved one. The only way I have found that I can truly express what I truly feel deep down is thru my craft, my art. Hopefully when I am finished, you will all appreciate my work, as well as Jessica, as the piece I`m doing now, may it be only a car body, but it comes from my heart, as well as the prayers I say every night, hoping that Jessi will make a full recovery, soon.
Thank you all again for the kind words, they truly mean a lot to me.
as always my prayers are with you Jessi, and my departed loved one.
#14
Posted 14 May 2003 - 06:57 AM
I'm really sorry to hear about your loss. I lost my mother last year and know what you are going through. Keep your chin up. Time heals all. You and your family are in my prayers.
Marvin
fixitmhn
#15
Posted 14 May 2003 - 08:43 AM
QUOTE (FASTALJR @ May 13 2003, 03:07 AM) |
I also learned a harsh reality about life tonight. My grandmother has been suffering a great deal for the past year, as of late she was in the hospital. Well she passed away this morning. |
FASTALJR I am sorry to hear of your loss, I do know how you feel as I lost my mother a year ago this May 23rd. I wish you and your family well.
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