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#1 User is offline   scarecrow 

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Posted 11 September 2003 - 02:22 PM

[B][FONT=Times][SIZE=7]Jessica's story is an great story of survival, but what about the other's who were P.O.W.'s I'm sure jessica's story about being captured and taken to that hospital and events inbetween is interesting, But id'e like to hear the stories of the other's. What Shoshana Johnson went through. It would be awsome to hear the story of how the 2 pilot's who tried to hide from the enemy before being caught. The moment right before they were shot down and the events that followed. Ide like to hearall of the other P.O.W.'s story about being captured and share in they're happiness when they were rescued. Not to say that lynch's story is less than that of the other's but don't think it's fair for her to get all kinds of attention and the other's to not get anything. Just my opinion biggrin.gif


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Posted 11 September 2003 - 06:34 PM

Scarecrow I understand what your saying but there are probably 150,000 stories from soldiers in Iraq. Jessica captured the attention of millions for many reasons. I think we have mentioned several times in our posts those reasons(first rescued POW behind enemy lines, injury controversy, uplifting story, etc.) . NBC chose her story because they feel that it will score high ratings. She was given a book contract because Knopf publishing firm believes at least 1/2 million people will buy her book. These were business decisions. I'm sure if a publishing firm believes that the other POW's story would sell they will also get signed book contracts. The Lynch family has never asked for any media attention. They have never actively pursued book deals. Movies deals and book deals are all business decisions. Unfortunately sometimes the business world is not fair. One thing I do know. I can't wait to read Jessica's story. I will watch the movie and I will buy the book.
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Posted 11 September 2003 - 07:37 PM

Oh, it'll come out. Unlike Jessica, however, they're all still on active duty and back at work, so there are certain restrictions on what they can say. Those restrictions ceased to apply to Jessica once she was formally retired, thus the boook deal.

She also gets most of the attention because she was the 1st one rescued and the worst injured. People always remember who was first to do something notable, but rarely 2nd...Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay were the first to climb Everest....who remembers who came next?
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#4 User is offline   Dilligafst 

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Posted 11 September 2003 - 09:58 PM

The second to ascend Everest was the American team of which the great Pacific Northwestern mountaineer and educator, Willi Unsoeld, was a member. I knew him. He died in an avalanche on Mt. Rainier in 1980. I can't remember who led the team:(

Jessica was also the first U.S. female pow to be rescued in US history and the first to be successfully hauled out from behind enemy lines since World War Two, when about 500 Bataan survivors were liberated in a raid in the Phillippines in 1945. I can't remember the name of the raid, but have read about it and listened to interviews with some of the survivors, both rescuerers and rescued. Jessica's story is also so unique from the other POW's of this Iraq war, not that it was any more or any less harrowing than what the 507 five and the chopper POW's endured. It is just different. She so wounded and completely helpless, was so dependent on the enemy for survival, she was a lone POW in a hospital teeming with Iraqi security, republican guard, Fedayeen, as it was their command post, and somehow she pulled it off and then got even luckier with the rescue.

The story of the others will come out as well. In a way, it already has, just not in book form. The 507 five did a compelling interview on MSNBC's dateline a while back. But I bet that it will come out in due time.


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Posted 12 September 2003 - 01:42 AM

No matter what I can't wait to hear her awsome story!!!!!
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Posted 12 September 2003 - 02:47 AM

The 7 former POWs do have interesting stories amd their stories will eventually be told. They are all still on duty and their own participation, such as co-authoring a book like Jessica Lynch is doing, will probably have to wait until they finish their military careers, although Desert Storm POW Col. Rhonda Cornum wrote a book and is still in the Army, so we may see something sooner. Even if they all wait until they leave the Army, there will be books written about them by others in the meantime.

Keep in mind that Jessica Lynch was not one of the 7 POWs that we knew were captives because they were shown on Iraq TV. Ms. Lynch was listed as Missing In Action before she was found and rescued. 99% of the time, being listed as MIA just means that they haven't found the body yet, and that sad fact held true in this war: Ms. Lynch was the only soldier listed as MIA to be recovered alive. So many things had to happen just right for her to survive that her story is extraordinary.
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Posted 12 September 2003 - 09:38 AM

QUOTE (Dilligafst @ Sep 11 2003, 09:58 PM)


Jessica was also the first U.S. female pow to be rescued in US history and the first to be successfully hauled out from behind enemy lines since World War Two, when about 500 Bataan survivors were liberated in a raid in the Phillippines in 1945.  I can't remember the name of the raid, but have read about it and listened to interviews with some of the survivors, both rescuerers and rescued. 

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Jessica was also the first U.S. female pow to be rescued in US History


I really don't mean to quibble but if am reading this correctly, I refer you to the book "We Band of Angels", by Elizabeth Norman, and published in paperback in 2000.
The book won several awards, one for historical scholarship. She researched material for the book for 12 years.
It is the story of the WW11 nurses who were trapped and imprisoned by the Japanese when they invaded Bataan. The story is from the oral and written (diaries) accounts of their imprisonment.
The 66 nurses were among the rescued prisoners in early 1945 when Gen. MacArthur "I shall return", returned to recapture the Island.
They worked devastatingly long hours caring for their sick and wounded fellow prisoners. They were referred to as Angels, by their patients and I think, by Gen. Wainright.

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I don't think it is fair for her to get all the attention

Scarecrow- 11 Sep

What seemed to captivate the hearts of many of us and around the world, among other things, may be that;
Jessica was only 19 years old at the time of her capture.
She was alone in captivity, that is, no Americans were around to give her comfort.
Her injuries were devastating.
She may have suffered even more anguish and stress by not knowing what happened to her best friend and her fellow soldiers.

Yes, we owe a debt of gratitude to all of our fighting men and women.


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Posted 12 September 2003 - 11:29 AM

We are not neglecting other stories here. If you look down further into the Iraq freedom posts, posts are being made about a lot of other stories and not just POW's either. Nobody is being forgotten here. Any story that can be found is being put on (provided it is not a obvious smear piece from certain quarters).
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Posted 12 September 2003 - 12:12 PM

i for one am disappointed in the fact that we have not yet heard from any of the other soldiers who were with her on that day, in any great detail....

it troubles me that, while Jessica has amnesia and cannot be expected to describe in detail her heroic efforts to save herself and comrades that day,
we have not heard from her comrades in arms regarding the day's events... surely they don't all have amnesia...

i am working diligently, writing to various news outlets and trying to convince them to "dig" out all the details she can't quite recall by interviewing everyone that was there...

indeed, Jessica was not "alone" in that convoy !!!!!!!!
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Posted 12 September 2003 - 02:30 PM

Eventhough Jessica has been given more attention than the other POWs for whatever reason, EVERY POW held captive are equally important. Let us put aside the media attention given to Jessica in relation to the other POWs.
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Posted 12 September 2003 - 07:05 PM

America should and will remember all of her heros....CNN did a great job with the second anniversary of 9/11/01. Jessi's story needs to be told, and so the stories of all of the other heros of wars past, present, and future. I just thank God that we are able to hear the stories of these heros, because they are home safe and able to tell their story. But what about our beloved fallen heros? Stories and honors put aside...we should always remember most those who gave their lives, wartime or otherwise, to keep us free.

Bruce and Kim Peterson
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Posted 14 September 2003 - 07:20 AM

I've read in Saturday's issue of the Las Vegas review that Shoshona Johnson expects to be medically discharged. They honored her and gave her keys to the city. She was also a guest at the Oscar del la Hoya fight. I also remember seeing a picture of one of the pilots in People magazine in his swimming trunks posing as one of the 50 most eligible bachelors. I do think all of the POW's have received quite a bit of media attention.
I also agree with Kim and Bruce Peterson that "we should always remember most those who gave their lives, wartime or otherwise".
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Posted 14 September 2003 - 12:55 PM

Very well said Bruce and Kim, on 9/11, I paused and said a prayer for the victims and their families as well as the men and women who have served and are serving our country for our precious freedom.
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Posted 15 September 2003 - 08:28 AM

here is the article about shoshana seeking discharged from army:

Vegas gives key to the city to ex-POW Shoshana Johnson
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Army Specialist Shoshana Johnson doesn't think of herself as a hero, despite receiving the Bronze Star, the Purple Heart and the Prisoner of War Medal.

She says, when her 3-year-old daughter grows up, the word heroic will not be used to describe how she survived an ambush near Nasiriyah and weeks spent in Iraqi captivity. Instead, she's going to tell her,"Her mom's a soldier who came home by the grace of God to watch her grow up."

The 30-year-old Army cook and resident of El Paso met with Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman on Friday to receive a key to the city. Goodman also proclaimed it "Shoshana Johnson Day."

A member of the 507th Maintenance Company, Johnson was wounded March 23 in an ambush that killed nine soldiers. A bullet fractured Johnson's left femur and tore her right Achilles tendon injuries that have forced her to make the tough decision of seeking a medical discharge from the military.

Johnson says she had planned on spending 20 years in the military like her father, who retired from the Army in 1999.

http://www.krnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=144...88&nav=8faOHyjj
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Posted 15 September 2003 - 09:31 AM

Wonderfully warm, and patriotic postings from you folks. However, I am of the opinion that if you want to view things about the "others" it would be ok if you went to their site. Should they not have a site, then weigh just how bad you want them to have a site and perhaps create one for them.

Why would you come to this site to get information on Shoshana? Shucks, just watch the news as she is the one gobbling up the media. They document her every move. So what about the other 4 POW's? We hear nothing, absolutely nothing on them!

Thanks to a couple of folks we are provided with some information that may or may not be associated with this site. So, they generally put them in the appropriate category to leave us the easy choice. Just as it was designed!

I once went to the yahoo sears message board and ask why we couldn't see more about Walmart. Boy, that must have sounded ludicrous. Soooo?
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