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A Related Topic: A Female Pow In Vietnam A little-known story

#1 User is offline   Matt Wiser 

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Posted 30 April 2005 - 02:46 AM

Here's a story that the forum might appreciate, and it's a related topic: a female POW in Vietnam. But she wasn't American. Her name was Monika Schwinn, a West German aid worker who was captured along with four other aid workers (two other women and two men) in the Tet Offensive in '68. They were taken by the VC to a camp in the jungle where they were held with a number of American POWs. This camp was brutal not in terms of torture, but starvation and disease-seven Americans died there, as did Monika's two female colleagues and one of the men died as well. In early fall of '68 she and her male colleague were taken north to Hanoi and promptly thrown into solitary in the Hanoi Hilton. Their conduct in captivity impressed a number of American POWs, and they were reccommended for the Presidential Medal of Freedom by two senior POW officers (An AF Col. shot down in an F-4 west of Khe Sanh, and an Army Lt. Col. shot down in a UH-1 near the DMZ during Tet). I don't know if they got that award, but DOD did recognize them in some way. There is a picture of Monika being escorted onto a C-141 at Hanoi/Gia Lam Airfield on 15 Mar 73 when she, her male colleague, and two dozen American POWs who had been brought up from SVN to the North were released and flown to Clark AB in the Philippines. She's being escorted by a State Department officer in the pic as the U.S. was responsible for all American and non-South Vietnamese POWs in the North, and they were handed over to their own authorities at Clark.
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Posted 06 May 2005 - 08:47 PM

The following link gives a listing and information of female POW's from the Civil War to the War in Iraq. Monika Scwinn is mentioned. Jessica and Shoshana Johnson are the last 2 entries on the page.

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Many of the arguments against women in combat contain the cry that women should not be prisoners of war - well get real folks - civilian and military women have already been prisoners of war!
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Posted 06 May 2005 - 09:31 PM

I knew about Olson from 'Nam...heard her story on Discovery Wings...the bastards poisoned her and Benge...and the refused treatement and allowed her to die in misery several days later.

I dropped the webmaster an email ashing that Lori Piestewa be added to the Iraqi Freedom list, sicne she survived the actual ambush and died in the custody and control of the Iraqis, and thus as a POW.
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Posted 07 May 2005 - 01:33 AM

Weren't Lori's folks presented with a POW Medal for Lori? ISTR there were some news stories mentioning that Lori was eligible for the medal since she died in captivity.
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Posted 07 May 2005 - 07:56 AM

I seem to recall that she DID receive the POW medal...I think it followed the release of the video from the first hospital that showed Lori alive. After that, not much else was said. I AM gratified, however, that following that video, news sources started referrign to Lori as a POW who died incaptivity, which is her proper status.
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Posted 07 May 2005 - 08:35 AM

QUOTE (Matt Wiser @ May 7 2005, 03:35 AM)
Weren't Lori's folks presented with a POW Medal for Lori? ISTR there were some news stories mentioning that Lori was eligible for the medal since she died in captivity.

I checked the POW-MIA website to see if Lori's status had been changed from KIA to POW, died in captivity. The listing cites only Sgt. Walters as receiving the POW medal posthumously.

[QUOTE]DUSTWUN/Missing - Status Changed to KIA
USA Sgt. Donald Walters, 33, Salem, OR - Remains ID'd
Confirmed as Captured and Executed: 27 MAY 2004 Awarded POW Medal Posthumously
USA Pfc. Lori Piestewa, 22, Tuba City, AZ - Remains ID'd[QUOTE]

http://www.aiipowmia.com

I E-mailed the site webmaster and inquired about any official information concerning Lori having received a POW medal posthumously.
The only other information I read at the site is that since the airing of the video of Jessica and Lori being shown in a hospital in an-Nasariya after the ambush of the 507th maintenance company, the Pentagon was investigating the incident (paraphrased).
I tried to retreive information about Lori's POW medal about 2 years ago from WIMSA. I never did receive any information at that time.
Trying to get the specific information is yes, "like pulling teeth." dry.gif
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Posted 09 May 2005 - 10:07 PM

Check http://www.pownetwork.org. Their Gulf War II section lists Lori. She was originally listed MIA, then KIA, then DIC (Died in Captivity).
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Posted 09 May 2005 - 10:47 PM

http://www.pownetwork.org/
this very interesting page thanks for the post
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Posted 10 May 2005 - 01:58 PM

QUOTE (Matt Wiser @ May 10 2005, 12:09 AM)
Check http://www.pownetwork.org. Their Gulf War II section lists Lori. She was originally listed MIA, then KIA, then DIC (Died in Captivity).

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 10:24 AM

[QUOTE=Matt Wiser,Apr 30 2005, 04:48 AM]Here's a story that the forum might appreciate, and it's a related topic: a female POW in Vietnam. But she wasn't American. Her name was Monika Schwinn, a West German aid worker who was captured along with four other aid workers . There is a picture of Monika being escorted onto a C-141 at Hanoi/Gia Lam Airfield on 15 Mar 73 when she, her male colleague, and two dozen American POWs who had been brought up from SVN to the North were released and flown to Clark AB in the Philippines. She's being escorted by a State Department officer in the pic as the U.S. was responsible for all American and non-South Vietnamese POWs in the North, and they were handed over to their own authorities at Clark.[QUOTE]

Apologies for the delay in posting this photo that Matt sent me several days ago.
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